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ILuvMy3Byz
Posted on: September 3rd, 2006, 4:40am Quote Report to Moderator
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I know some of you through explora and gymnastics and the PE classes at UNM. I also am in charge of the very small homeschool group on Kirtland AFB. I get asked by people "what is unschooling?" And I really do not know what to tell them. And I do not want to be ignorant and give them wrong information.  I know prior to being a homeschooler I had an impression of what homeschoolers where and what I am now is definitely not what my previous impressions were.

So I figured I would ask. Our group is so very small and we do not have any unschoolers and even though each of us might know someone who unschools we are not 100% familiar with the practice.

I thank you all in advance for any information you all provide!  
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dbentzen
Posted on: September 3rd, 2006, 5:26am Quote Report to Moderator
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Quoted from ILuvMy3Byz, posted September 3rd, 2006, 4:40am at here
I get asked by people "what is unschooling?" And I really do not know what to tell them. And I do not want to be ignorant and give them wrong information.


Unschooling is like homeschooling, in that it looks different in every household that does it. Also known as "child-led learning" and "delight-driven learning" it usually doesn't look like school. In my house this week it's consisted heavily of a unit study of the Cub Scout manual. My son is very excited about Cub Scouts, so that's where our focus has been.

For the previous few weeks, he was heavily into computer games. He moved from various train-themed games into Railroad Tycoon (which spans information on economics, what developments spawn what needs, geography, etc.) into Roller Coaster Tycoon (which spans information on listening to your customer, economics, layout and design issues, employment, etc.).

At this time last year, though, our unschooling looked more like a class, as both kids were into cursive and for a week or so our read-aloud book was on Swiss history.

Really, I just try to provide materials I think the kids will be interested in and that will enlarge their scope. I've learned to expect them to focus on one particular interest for a couple of months at a time, and not to view their focus as a problem.

Unschooling is hard to define, but it relates to supporting, rather than directing, our kids' interests and learning.

I'm sure others will expand and/or correct as they see fit.

Diane
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Crystal_Miller
Posted on: September 3rd, 2006, 5:17pm Quote Report to Moderator
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Here is the description of unschooling from our local Rio Rancho & Albuquerque UNschooling group.  

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Thank you for your interest in RR&AUNschoolers.  Please read the following description to make sure our group is right for you. We ARE NOT homeschoolers but UNschoolers.  There is a definite difference.  

Looking forward to hearing from you.
Rio Rancho & Albuquerque Unschoolers
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We are the "Rio Rancho & Albuquerque Unschoolers” supporting families in Rio Rancho and the surrounding areas.  This group has no religious agenda and its members will have a wide variety of beliefs and non-beliefs.  We are founded as an unschooling support group, although we will help people who want to understand unschooling. We will not be spending any time talking about the best way to "make" your child learn a particular lesson or skill. Rather we choose to spend our time discussing what we consider to be the best of real life, that is, the learning that happens (for all of us) when it is meaningful and relevant to a particular individual. None of us will be shocked or dismayed if your child watches television or plays video games- indeed, many of us embrace these technologies as part of a rich life. Television, computers, and video games go hand-in-hand with books, magazines, lectures, films and camping - all to be used and enjoyed.  

We understood that each family is at a different point in their journey and not everyone on this list will be a radical unschooler, some may be just exploring the idea, others may be relaxed homeschoolers but not quite ready to call themselves unschoolers and yet others may be some combination of these. We will strive to provide support and encouragement wherever each family is in their unschooling journey.

We respect our kids as whole human beings right now and do not see a need to wait for that magic age of 18 to listen to their desires about the direction in which they want to steer their lives. We are here to help facilitate their growth and help them find the answers. We honor and respect our children for who they are.  With unschooing our children learn and grow joyfully, by being a part of the real world every day.  Listening to our children now, helping them to grow in the directions of their choosing, ensures raising strong, powerful individuals capable of living vibrant, exciting lives. Childhood is not just a preparation for adulthood. It is a valid valuable time in the life cycle in and of itself. It is a time to be enjoyed and relished! We believe in Unlimited Learning and providing a stimulating environment and the tools and desire to explore and learn.

OUR GOAL is to meet for parkdays and fun within the Rio Rancho & Albuquerque areas.  We honor and support our childrens choices for play. Events, classes, fieldtrips, etc. are welcomed but not expected.  We know that many other homeschool groups in the area offer many of these wonderful opportunities.

OUR MAIN GOAL is to foster local friendships with like-minded unschoolers, radical unschoolers, whole life learners, life long learners, within Rio Rancho and Albuquerque areas.  If you live by the principles of natural learning, respectful parenting, joyful living, freedom and autonomy, living by principles, family first, no panic or criticism, living without fear, resisting enrollment, non-coercive parenting, deschooling ourselves, and letting go of controls, then this group is for your family.

We hope you join us.
The Miller Family
Rio Rancho, New Mexico

This is not a school-at-home group.  You are welcome to suggest opportunities, books, etc. if someone is requesting.  However, this group is not for discussion of curriculum or how to get kids to "do school.  Further this is NOT an eclectic homeschooling group. This is an unschooling / radical unschooling group with lots of dedicated families.  This list has no ads, no spam, no religious stance policy.  Unschooling / Radical Unschooling means something, and that is what this list is about.  Debates about the merits of unschooling will not be tolerated. We expect subscribers to be respectful of the others on the list, and we reserve the right to pull subscriptions of those who are not.  

Unschooling is learning as a part of life. It allows the child to learn naturally, without adult-imposed "lessons", schedules, or timelines. This list is to offer support, information, perspective, and enlightenment to anyone already unschooling or interested in unschooling.

Unschooling
"All I am saying in this book can be summed up in two words: Trust Children. Nothing could be more simple, or more difficult. Difficult because to trust children we must first learn to trust ourselves, and most of us were taught as children that we could not be trusted." -John Holt, in "How Children Learn"
From Unschooling-dotcom:

"Unschooling is the confidence to trust that young people will learn what they need from living their lives in freedom and joy. An unschooling parent is a facilitator and cheerleader who embraces life and learning with curiosity and enthusiasm. An unschooled child is free to choose the what, when, where and how of their learning -- from mud puddles to Shakespeare to Spongebob Squarepants! Unschooling is *not* defined as the free learning kids do outside of parent-directed learning, nor is it done on a part-time basis.”

Please also view:
http://sandradodd.com/unschooling
http://home.earthlink.net/~fetteroll/rejoycing/
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I hope this helps Dawn, if you need more information please feel free to email me at WillowsFortress@cableone.net.  I know that prior to being unschoolers, we were homeschoolers and I had zero clue of what unschooling truly was.  Please let me know if I can help in anyway.
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ILuvMy3Byz
Posted on: September 3rd, 2006, 5:54pm Quote Report to Moderator
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Thank you both so much for the information. I want to use it to make a packet that I can give to people; having websites is great so that it will lead people in the right direction. Like I said my whole goal through this is to not be ignorant any longer and to understand. For some reason recently I feel like there has been a division between homeschoolers and unschoolers yet I feel we have the same goal. Or at least I thought we did. As a group leader I no longer wanted to remain unknowledgeable about the information. Even though I tried to remain unbiased, in away I felt that not knowing was still showing the person asking the question that I carried a certain bias because I didn't care enough to find out. Maybe I just think to much!  LOL!! But recently at Explora I met a lady that Unschools her children and started talking to her, she said she just started so she still uses some curriculum she just does not feel comfortable enough yet to make the complete break so I figured I would ask this group, and just as I figured you came through for me!

Thanks again!  
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Crystal_Miller
Posted on: September 3rd, 2006, 6:42pm Quote Report to Moderator
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Dawn...that's so cool.  Good for you.  I ran a group of 300 families back in CA...YES 300!!!!!  Anyhow, at the time I was a homeschooler / classical curriculumer.  I felt the same way...that I was truly not being a leader without having knowledge about all types of homeschooling.  Hey...and look at me now...Radical Unschooler!  heehee  Anyhow, even within unschooling there are subdivisions..like Christian Radical Unschoolers, etc.  This just came up with a friend of mine.  I think that there is definitely some type of homschooling that can work for any particular family.  I do have some books that I would like to recommend for your packet and a few more websites.  I am getting out the door right now...coloring some of my unschooling tribes hair blue and green for the Live and Learn unschooling Conference here in Albuquerque next week.

By the way, highly recommend going if you really want to get an idea about unschooling.  It is really cool to watch the teen unschoolers...they have "turned out" so awesome.  Great happy whole kids...whoops teens!!! haha

Anyhow, the conference looks to be only in North Carolina for now on...so if anybody wants to experience...please check it out next week.  Just google Live and Learn Conference 2006.  

I'll post that info later....
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