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| Chell |
| Posted on: September 20th, 2005, 10:46pm |
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Hi all,
I've been considering homeschooling my boys into/thru high school, but their teacher at Family School says if I do this, all I can hope for for my sons at their time of graduation is a GED. Is this really an issue I should be concerned about for their future hopes of getting into the college of their choice? What are their options if this is the case?
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| M_Leader |
| Posted on: September 20th, 2005, 11:23pm |
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Boy is she out of the loop!
There are many different ways to doing high school, but going the GED route is probably not the best one. (the military would rather have a homeschooled recruit than one with a GED, and once you get the GED, you are no longer in the hsing pool). Most colleges accept homeschool graduates, some with extra paperwork, but not all.
Some people do high school and just plan on putting together a transcript when they are finished (that's what we're doing with our 15 year old son) and other's go through one of the high school programs. Clonlara, out of Michagin, and NARS, in Maine, are two favorites, but there are others as well.
There are a bunch of Yahoo groups just for homeschooling highschool. I've been on Homeschool2college, but that's only one of many.
One method many people do, is to contact a few colleges now and ask what they will be wanting from your son when he applies down the road. Opening up a dialogue before you are doing high school will allow you to take care of hurdles as you go.
HTH
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| Genevieve |
| Posted on: September 20th, 2005, 11:47pm |
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I wish I couldn't believe I am hearing this... *g*
Almost all colleges and universities--including Ivy League and the top engineering schools--admit homeschoolers without an accredited diploma. I am planning on homeschooling through high school with no accredation. It really is not a problem. Colleges don't care--and, in fact, a number actively recruit homeschoolers to add diversity to their campuses. A GED can actually hurt your chances of gettign in at many places! A GED is an admission that your child's homeschool was NOT at least equivalent to a regular high school course of study, so it's something you probably want to avoid.
If you homeschool high school, I'd recommend keeping portfolios of their work to be used in admissions later--and you'll need to start grading/testing them if you're not already for their transcripts!
An alternative is distance education, like Clonara and the Calvert School. But I like to swim against the current.  |
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| Admin |
| Posted on: September 20th, 2005, 11:53pm |
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Here's a link to some articles about homeschooling high schoolers, including info about "graduating," transcripts, and college admission. With a 3 & 6 year old, I don't have any direct experience in this. Good luck!
Oops. Would be nice if I had posted the link... Here it is:
http://homeschooling.gomilpitas.com/olderkids/OlderKids.htm |
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| Admin |
| Posted on: September 21st, 2005, 12:00am |
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| I was under the impression that if you wanted to use the bridge/lottery grants to go to a NM college, you needed a GED or official graduation? Or am I wrong about that? By the time my kids are ready it'll all be different, I'm sure. |
Elizabeth
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| LisaSilva |
| Posted on: September 21st, 2005, 1:15am |
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Elizabeth, Ladies
I don't know where you all heard such negative things about a GED, however, I can tell you that obtaining a GED does NOT state that your homeschool education is less than that of a public school. My oldest graduated from American School, a homeschool correspndance course, only to have to take his GED to get into the United States Army. They would not accept his homeschool diploma. I have heard that that has now changed, this was over 5 years ago for us. My 18.5 year old, also took his GED at the age of 17, and received extremely high scores. He also was able to pass that test at an earlier age then most, schooling less years then those in public school with higher scores then those in public school.
Also, the paperwork when received has the words "New Mexico High School Diploma" on them, nowhere is GED on the certificate. And while it does not say which school a child graduated from, it does show that you have completed your schooling, and wouldn't need to be in the homeschooling pool.
And yes, at present to obtain scholarship money you must take the GED test. CAPE is currently working on that with Legislation to change that law. |
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| Admin |
| Posted on: September 21st, 2005, 1:48am |
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| Lisa, I have no negative impressions of the GED, I'm sorry you read my message to suggest that. Thanks for your added information. |
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| M_Leader |
| Posted on: September 21st, 2005, 3:01am |
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Hmm, I realize my info is for another state and I can't speak about any NM scholarship opportunities, but not all scholarships require a GED.
My info on the GED and going into the military comes from a conversation within the past year with a recruiter in Indianapolis (where I used to live.) The way they now work, a GED will place you into a lower group when it comes to what type of work that you want to do and such. I was only part of a larger conversation, but that is what he said. For anyone who wants to go into the military, I'd say at least check with a recruiter before you take the test. They've obviously changed how the hande hsers, and it can always change again.
As for colleges, as the wife of an academic, what we are hearing is that homeschoolers should not get GED if they want to get into the top colleges and programs. A homeschool transcript and portfolio is much higher regarded.
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| Ally |
| Posted on: September 21st, 2005, 3:51am |
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Hello Chell!
Here is a link that i came across. It's a list of colleges that admit homeschoolers.
http://www.learninfreedom.org/colleges_4_hmsc.html
Hope this helpful. My son in 2 yrs. so i don't have any first hand experience to offer.
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| LisaSilva |
| Posted on: September 21st, 2005, 4:16am |
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That's correct not all do, the Roadrunner does here though.
And yes, for Collage entrance, transcripts/porfolios and SAT scores are better, that is correct.
For the army, or any branch of the military as far as I know they have to take the GED test.
I wish I had the web site where I read about this, it was through CAPE, I'll go through the old newsletters I have to try and find it. Maybe it can help someone, I wish I'd of known this stuff years ago, boy it would have helped.
Thanks for the info ladies.
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| M_Leader |
| Posted on: September 21st, 2005, 4:44am |
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Quoted Text For the army, or any branch of the military as far as I know they have to take the GED test. |
Oh, I agree that they have to take a GED, my point is that it may not be for the best. I can't recreate a conversation, but this quote comes from another list that I'm on.
Meg
> If your daughter is
>looking at the Army, please note that a high school diploma will beat a GED
>when all other things are equal when it comes to promotions and certain
>other personnel actions. Once she enlists as a GED recipient, she will be
>tagged forever as a GED and not a high school graduate.
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| LisaSilva |
| Posted on: September 21st, 2005, 1:22pm |
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Meg? From Enrichment classes on Fridays? How funny, it's Lisa, the coordinator of the classes.
Again, they must have changed the rules, as it was almost 5 years ago now, that James, homeschool diploma in hand, enlisted, and was told he would HAVE TO TAKE the GED test, as they would not take/accept his diploma, although it was issued from American School. I don't know if that had anything to do with it or not.
I hope they have changed their rules and are allowing homeschool diplomas without requiring that they take the GED test too, that would be one more victory for our side. |
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| comerschool |
| Posted on: September 21st, 2005, 5:55pm |
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Hi,
I am a homeschool graduate who has started homeschooling my own kids. I had no problem getting into UNM all they reqiured was a SAT score and placement test. I also applied to other schools and none of them asked me for more information other then contact information for my mom. Most schools I applied to were excited to recieve a homeschoolers application! I never finished my college education but I did get 1 year under my belt. This was 6 years ago so I am sure the are even more willing to work with us now. |
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| Crystal_Miller |
| Posted on: September 21st, 2005, 6:39pm |
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Hi. I am always inspired by different conversations to "look things up." Even though Sorscha is only 7, I found the information on this topic very interesting. It brought me back to a book I wanted to read by Wes Beach.
Here is a great article, part way down is some recommended reading. I did just finish a great book written by teenagers called:
Real lives: Eleven teenagers who don't go to school by Llewellyn
This is the same auther who wrote The Teenage Liberation Handbook
Check out the site at:
http://www.home-ed.vic.edu.au/About/Teenagers.htm
I also saw Wes Beach in CA and he was amazing. He runs Wes Beach High School. Just kind of interesting to check out his views on diplomas, etc.
http://members.cruzio.com/~beachhi/home.html
Here is another great article from him.
http://www.besthomeschooling.org/articles/wes_beach.html
And finally, here is how to get his book. He is the Teen advisor for HSC (Homeschool Southern CA).
http://www.hsc.org/chaos/teens/wes_seminar.php
From your post it sounded like you have been given only one option....remember that there are always 100's of them out there.
Have fun with researching all this. I look forward to the years that you are going through. How exciting!!!
Crystal and Sorscha (7 3/4) |
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| vicki |
| Posted on: September 22nd, 2005, 9:00pm |
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Honestly, I've not researched this topic. I figure by the time Matthew is at this point, things will be different. But I'm curious about the kids that don't want to go to college. My cousins all have good jobs with banks and insurance companies. None of them went to college....Or be a teller at a bank or admitting clerk at a hospital or other types of jobs that don't require a college degree but a high school diploma... Does anyone have experience or knowledge with that situation? I wonder if employers would accept a homeschool diploma?
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