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ABQlearningresources
February 11, 2011, 4:59pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Proposed HB 254

CURFEW ORDINANCES

Sponsor: Dennis J. Kintigh
1/31/2011
http://www.nmlegis.gov/lcs/_session.aspx?chamber=H&legtype=B&legno=%20254&year=11

Current Location: House Health and Government Affairs Committee


to go into effect 7/1/2011

Link to the Bill     ----------->    http://www.nmlegis.gov/Sessions/11%20Regular/bills/house/HB0254.pdf

I know HSLDA is sending out alerts regarding this bill, I will not repeat their alerts.....read the bill for yourselves,
call your representatives directly and ask questions BE INFORMED don't let others do your thinking for you please!

I can understand why this was introduced and I can understand how it can be abused (like any other law)....will it affect homeschoolers directly?
Doubtful since the intention of the bill is to gather truants.
Teen homeschoolers could get caught up in this but I realize the intention of the bill is not necessarily how it will be enforced. It will allow each district/municipality to enforce its own curfew laws.
All I know is that I will be calling to ask my own questions.

A public hearing on the proposed bill will be held on Saturday, February 12, 2011 at 9:00 a.m. in Room 309 at the Capitol with the House Health and Government Affairs Committee.
Representative Mimi Stewart is the Chairman.

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You can view the full announcement by following this link:    http://newmexicohomeschoolcommunity.com/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=3392.0

Regards,
The New Mexico Home School Community Team.
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DannieMorris
February 12, 2011, 10:07am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Thanks, for posting a link to the bill, Carissa!  I am concerned because sometimes non-teen aged homeschool kids (mine included) are allowed to walk or ride their bikes around the block.  It terrifies me to think that my son, who has my permission to be riding his bike, could be picked up by an officer.  NM has always been a very homeschool friendly state, and I really hope this bill is not passed.  


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ABQlearningresources
February 16, 2011, 5:24pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Dannie, I feel the same in many ways.  Here's an update from CAPE on this ordinance . . . many developments on it, for sure:

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HB 254 Short Title: Curfew Ordinances
Sponsor(s): Representative Dennis J. Kintigh
Report House Health and Government Affairs Committee
Saturday, February 12, 2011

Result:  HHGAF amended bill (as HSLDA suggested and CAPE submitted) and that was a good thing, but they ultimately passed  it--not a good thing.

Status:  It will now go to the Judiciary Committee.  
            We checked and it's not scheduled yet.  As soon as it is scheduled, we will ask for calls and emails.

Here is the breakdown of votes:

Title                   Name      Position Vote
Representative Mimi Stewart  Chair No
Representative Nick L. Salazar  Vice Chair Absent
Representative Alonzo Baldonado  Member Yes
Representative Eleanor Chavez  Member No
Representative Yvette Herrell  Member Yes
Representative Terry H. McMillan  Member Yes
Representative Luciano "Lucky" Varela  Member Absent
Representative Jeannette O. Wallace  Member Absent


Bill Summary:  Allows counties and municipalities to establish curfews for minors, both nighttime and daytime curfews.  
                     Previously, the state Supreme Court has found them unconstitutional, pre-empting the Children's Code.

Arguments and responses:
                     Rep. Kintigh introduced this bill at the request of the Roswell City Council; he was formerly the police chief.  
                     His hope is that it will reduce juvenile crime, and especially crime against juveniles.  He wants to protect children.

§ Most crime against juveniles occurs between 3:00 and 6:00 pm; a time period not covered by school hour curfews.
§ There is no consistent evidence that curfews reduce crime rates.
§ Most municipalities do not have areas to allow youth to wait for parents, other than foster homes, detention facilities, or jail.  If the parents are unavailable, what will they do with the children?
§ Kids and parents will spend more time in court proving they were not violating curfew...students won't be in school, parents won't be at work or supervising their other children, police will be in court and not on the streets.
§ Curfews are a clear violation of a parent's right to parent.  
   They criminalize young people for looking young and being visible.

§ While criminals are hiding in alleys or ducking down in cars, it is the private, charter, alternative, dual enrollment, and home schooled children who will be stopped, interrogated, and forced to prove they have permission to be out in public.
§ CAPE's offer of amendment language was not a fix for the bill.  It only made it slightly less awful.
§ CAPE acknowledges that Rep. Kintigh tried to make provision to keep innocent students from being convicted of curfew violations,
   but that would not keep those students from being stopped, interrogated, delayed, and embarrassed by police officers who are supposed to be fighting crime,
   not stopping young people without any reasonable suspicion of criminal activity other than being outside.

Committee Member Terry McMillan:  "I guess it's not a bad trade-off to hassle a few innocent kids to save a few lives."  

Committee Member Alonzo Baldonado:  "I guess we have to look at protecting children vs. the constitutionality of the law.    Maybe the Judiciary Committee needs to decide."

For a great list of arguments against daytime curfews, email info@cape-nm.org and we will reply with an attachment compiled by Home School Legal Defense Association.
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JulM.
February 25, 2011, 6:09am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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THIS IS BEING HEARD THIS A.M. (FRIDAY), SO IF YOU ARE NOT IN FAVOR, PLEASE CALL OR EMAIL AND ASK THE REPS TO OPPOSE HB 254.  THE CONTACT INFO FOR EACH REP IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS POST.

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Email Script: Cut and paste the message.  Feel free to tweak the text to personalize it and don't forget to change the name of the rep!  

Subject:  Oppose 254



Dear Representative _________________;  



Please vote against House Bill 254. This bill will allow counties and municipalities to enact restrictive curfew ordinances that would violate the constitutional freedom of law abiding parents and children. Daytime curfews interfere with the parents' fundamental right to the care, custody and control of their children. There is little evidence that daytime curfews significantly reduce juvenile crime during curfew hours. I am opposed to House Bill 254 in spite of any amendments.

Your Name

Your Location


You do not need to mention that you are a homeschooler.




Call Script:  Thank you for taking my call.  Please tell Representative__________ that we are asking him/her to oppose HB 254. Thank you very much and have a blessed day.




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Legislators respond to numbers of constituents.  If you live in the district of one of the committee members, mention it.  Your calls and emails are especially important.  Thank you!


For more information on daytime curfews, please see HSLDA's excellent analysis of this issue at http://www.hslda.org/elink.asp?ID=2102 .

Thank you for your support of homeschooling freedom in New Mexico!

  

HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE





Name
  

Email
Capitol Phone (505)

Chairman Al Park
alpark.nm@gmail.com
986-4413

Vice Chairman Joseph Cervantes
  

Joseph@cervanteslawnm.com
  

986-4234

Eliseo Lee Alcon
eliseoalcon@msn.com
986-4243

Paul C. Bandy
paul@paulbandy.org
986-4248

Cathrynn N. Brown
brown55@windstream.net
986-4211

Gail Chasey
gailchasey@msn.com
986-4844

David C. Chavez
david@davidcchavez.com
986-4451

Zachary J. Cook
zachjcook@gmail.com
986-4454

David L. Doyle
ddoyle@ebnm.com
986-4249

Brian F. Egolf
brian@brianegolf.com
986-4423

Nate Gentry
natefornm@gmail.com
986-4249

Antonio "Moe" Maestas
rep16@moejustice.com
986-4233

Bill B. O'Neill
oneillhd15@fastmail.us
986-4464

William "Bill" R. Rehm
bill.rehm@nmlegis.gov
986-4248

Mimi Stewart
mstewart@osogrande.com
986-4344

















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